What Is This Submissive Man Really Seeking?
I recently had an interesting encounter that I think will help submissive men grow. I want you to read this abridged conversation and tell me what you think the intentions of this young man are.
I am at the park when I get an email alert on my phone. It is a message from a Conquer Him subscriber named T Penny saying that she loves the site and would like to learn more about the training class and what I offer. I smile and go back to my goal of relaxing under this perfect Los Angeles sky.
Minutes later I receive another email notification and I take a look and it is T Penny again. I smile again. This woman sure is excited to connect with me. Maybe she will want to join the next Female Led Relationship training class for women.
She shares once again that she loves my site, my Fetlife profile and would love to chat with me sometime since she is a Los Angeles based writer as well. This excites me because I do not have a single writer friend and no one to gush over website statistics and internet marketing and content creation. No one I know shares my passion so I figure it would be great to at least have a convo with her.
I roll over onto one side, my toes tickled by the lush grass and type back. Hey Penny! Why don’t you give me a call I am not busy right now.
The call did not come until about 20 minutes later. By that time I noticed that I had already received a request from T Penny on Google Hangouts. I answered the phone call with a chuckle, ready to hear a bubbling female voice.
Instead of the soft tone I was expecting, a baritone voice invaded my ears.
“Hello,” he said cautiously.
“Hello?”
“I know you are probably thinking I am a woman but I am not. My name is T.”
This threw me for a loop but I laughed anyway and asked him how I could answer any questions he might have about the site or the training.
He said he did not have many, but he lived in Los Angeles and asked if I had been on the scene here. I explained that I had indeed visited many dungeons, taken many courses, played at play parties, spoken with many dommes and submissives and explored myself within the realm of BDSM.
“Um, did you create the site because you are interested in a Female Led Relationship or is it just business for you?” he asked me.
“Well, I started it as strictly a business venture. I saw that so many people were interested in this topic that I had to figure out why and the only way to do this was to study it and research it and present it formally online, which turned into sharing the information I learned through training classes,” I explained.
“So you are not really into being in a FLR?” he asked.
“Honestly, I do not socialize much myself and I used to think submissive men were annoying and weak because they needed so much training and correction but now that I am working closely with them, I see that they just, need to be TOLD how to please you and support you,” I said. “I used to be so impatient with them thinking they should KNOW what to do already. But now I have learned they need to be told. I look at submissive men differently now so I don’t know what may happen.”
“Are you seeking an FLR?” I asked him.
“Yes, definitely!” he replied with confidence.
“Why is this important to you?” I asked.
“It just seems that whenever I have a relationship where the woman is in control, things just go better,” he said. “”And being with a dominant woman in the bedroom is just great.”
I went on to ask him questions that are important to me, questions that would allow me to understand the motivations behind his desire. He seemed pretty straight forward, very assertive and confident.
Later in the conversation I realized that this call was not about the site at all when he said, “I saw you on Fetlife and figured that you were a beautiful domme in Los Angeles and I might give it a shot.”
Oh. He is trying to date me. How cute.
“I am a dominant personality but I am not a domme,” I shared with him. “Women who wear that title seem to be way into controlling and punishing and I am not delighted by having someone obey my rules. I would rather they please me because they want to, not out of obedience.”
We then went on to talk about my training class and I shared some of my goals and even invited him to be a speaker and share how intensely he is seeking a Female Led Relationship. He said he would think about it and changed the subject.
“Do you ever teach them about pegging?” he asked me.
At that point my mind went blank.
“Remind me what that is,” I asked him.
He laughed, “Using a strap-on.”
Ohh. I laughed as a memory floated by of this man I met who explained to me that the first time his wife used a strap-on on him, it changed his life forever and he began to crave that feeling every day.
“I don’t think this is about being homosexual,” I shared with him. “I honestly believe that if any man in this world were to give a strap-on a chance, he would enjoy it more than he could ever imagine.”
“I agree,” He said to me. “It’s great. Do you think you would want to try it?”
“I don’t know,” I replied. “First I need to meet someone who approaches me with something to offer instead of asking me to satisfy his kinks.”
“I think you should,” he said. “You would love it.”
“I might,” I replied. “But that is a long way off for me. I am teaching right now and I need to focus on the students.”
“But I think you would really like it,” he persisted.
I paused and looked at the phone.
“Would you agree that an FLR is about serving and supporting the woman in her goals?” I asked him.
“Why yes, it is.”
“Would you also agree that by continuing to mention what you like instead of asking a woman what she needs to help her achieve her goals is a sign that the man is trying to lead the relationship?” I asked. “Does that seem like an FLR to you?”
“No. It doesn’t.”
See. This is what I am talking about when I share with you all that kink based approaches to Female Led Relationships do not work. What he needs is a FemDom Mistress who delights in dominating men. He is not trying to be LED, he wants to lead his way to his dream of being plugged.
There are so many ways that a submissive male writer with experience in BDSM and kink could assist me in growing my businesses and offering even more insight into the Female Led Relationship dynamic that could ultimately help more men become better submissives, but he never asked once how he could help my goals. His objective was to satisfy his craving for back door action.
If you are a submissive man and you crave pegging, that is perfectly fine but do yourself a favor and never approach a woman immediately making requests without first seeing if there is any way you can help her achieve her goals. That is selfish and stupid of you. You will only attract a submissive woman who is so desperate for your approval and acceptance that she will give in to your desires and end up hating herself for it in the end because it is not what she wants.
A true Female Led Relationship is based on the man’s desire to partner with a woman to support her in her goals. His pleasure comes from seeing her progress and watching her smile, even if it has nothing to do with his own pleasure. If a quick sonic boom is what you need, go pay a FemDom Mistress for her time.
A Female Led Relationship is sacred because it is about love and progress. Do not desecrate it with your selfish, manipulative, kinky cravings.
A woman who is a good match for an FLR will honor the kinks of her submissive male out of appreciation for how well he takes care of her. In essence, you will never have to worry about your kinks being satisfied if you first learn to satisfy the Goddess you want to serve.
Very well written! I think you hit the nail on the head!
Lol … couldn’t help to chuckle while reading the very well written article! Lol … I could imagine the Facial expression of surprize on Goddess’s Face when hearing and realizing the expected She … is in fact a he! Jokes aside – the essence of this article by Goddess reflects the very essence of the challenge facing any FLR!
The challenge is – is the applying submissive man anything else than a pseudo “kinkster” … or is he a genuine core submissive who is prepared to work for, sweat for, sacrifice for and worship his Goddess? As Macbeth asked may, many moons ago … to be or not to be????
My personal opinion remains [not based on research at all though yet based on decades of experience!] that 95% of all so called submissive men on this planet are nothing more than “kinksters” “fetishists” “players” … do not want to discourage Goddess further … yet need to mention that 95% of “submissive” men on Fetlife [if not more!] are also nothing more than “kinksters” “players” and “fetishists!
And You know what is the hall mark of a “kinkster” “fetishist” and a “player” … after the fix he/She returns to normal, the equilibrium prior to the fix is simply reinstated!
The challenge is therefor … how do You identify and point a true life style SUBMISSIVE male … She who has the answer to this question will be truly blessed …
Sadly, you’re absolutely correct, submissive paul c. 🙁
yeah, it’s really sad as a truly submissive male that so many men on Fetlife are players. i thought i was giving an honest and real profile about seeking a FLR, but was judged without anyone taking the time to talk to me.
now i’m not sure where to go to find a Dominant Woman.
i can’t just stop being submissive, but don’t know if i’ll ever find a Dominant Woman.
Goddess –
I reply to both You and to PaulaC (above).
Perhaps, men who seek dominant women and Female Led Relationships are first attracted by the notions surrounding being “kinkster” “player” and “fetishist! That was the hook for me. Men are greedy to satsify their puriant interests.
But then I found my REAL need, which isto bring deep satisfaction and ecstasy to my Goddess. My puriant desires are now subordinate to bliss for Goddess.
YOU are correct on both fronts – We men –
> DO not know the. pleasure of pleasing our Goddess
> DO need the training of a strong Woman guided by
strong discipline (it’s the shortest path to getting our
attention).
I am so very happy to have found You and your writings. Perhaps, someday, I too will enjoy the World of which you speak.
Hear, HEAR! 🙂
Probably in a perfect world strong female leadership would be taken for granted in all areas of life and there would be little need to designate a particular relationship as FLR or anything else. For us, the term has absolutely nothing to do with kink and everything to do with our belief that the world is in dire need of the healing and nurturing qualities that come with intelligent feminine leadership and guidance. The objective is to encourage and support women of all ages and backgrounds who desire to be leaders to be able to achieve their goals without resistance. It takes time because, although much male leadership has proven to be second-rate, it is firmly entrenched and difficult to shift. Society is quite simply selling itself short by under-utilising 50% of its available leadership talent. How come? Much resistance to female leadership seems to be based on irrational fear. Adherence to a FLR can probably go a long way to breaking down the barriers slowly but surely.
Having said that, there is no doubt that a committed personal FLR is wonderfully erotic. Serving a beautiful powerful Goddess ought to be every man’s goal.
I am in absolute agreement with you, submissive frankie teardrop! 🙂
Do you seek actively seek a FLR? If so, where do you advertise yourself?
excellent article
I am very submissive and was born that way. I naturally want to serve women. That is my strong need.
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